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Question for Lar-NCAA/PSU Hockey OT


#1

Was curious what you thought about this video in an NCAA light. I’m not sure that there is actually anything to worry about, but it just all seems so nice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IO70BpYjUA#ws


#2

One - they aren’t an NCAA hockey team so the NCAA rules don’t exactly apply.

Two - it’s no different than the team taking in a movie/show the night before a game (they play Illinois tonight and tomorrow). These guys just went to a hockey game instead. So even if the rules did apply, it’s not a problem (as long as what they paid was the going group rate and not discounted)


#3

But what if they went to see Bon Jovi instead of a hockey game? :slight_smile:


#4

[quote=“UncleLar, post:2, topic:2730”]One - they aren’t an NCAA hockey team so the NCAA rules don’t exactly apply.

Two - it’s no different than the team taking in a movie/show the night before a game (they play Illinois tonight and tomorrow). These guys just went to a hockey game instead. So even if the rules did apply, it’s not a problem (as long as what they paid was the going group rate and not discounted)[/quote]

Is there a limit as to what the team can pay for? Does this have to come out of the players’ pockets?


#5
One - they aren't an NCAA hockey team so the NCAA rules don't exactly apply.

Two - it’s no different than the team taking in a movie/show the night before a game (they play Illinois tonight and tomorrow). These guys just went to a hockey game instead. So even if the rules did apply, it’s not a problem (as long as what they paid was the going group rate and not discounted)

Is there a limit as to what the team can pay for? Does this have to come out of the players’ pockets?

Not for a club team.


#6
[quote="UncleLar, post:2, topic:2730"]One - they aren't an NCAA hockey team so the NCAA rules don't exactly apply.

Two - it’s no different than the team taking in a movie/show the night before a game (they play Illinois tonight and tomorrow). These guys just went to a hockey game instead. So even if the rules did apply, it’s not a problem (as long as what they paid was the going group rate and not discounted)[/quote]

Is there a limit as to what the team can pay for? Does this have to come out of the players’ pockets?

Not for a club team.

Doesn’t the fact that some of these “club” players will be on scholarship next season come into play?


#7

Theoretically, any club player could be on scholarship next year, so no, that doesn’t come into play.


#8
[quote="UncleLar, post:2, topic:2730"]One - they aren't an NCAA hockey team so the NCAA rules don't exactly apply.

Two - it’s no different than the team taking in a movie/show the night before a game (they play Illinois tonight and tomorrow). These guys just went to a hockey game instead. So even if the rules did apply, it’s not a problem (as long as what they paid was the going group rate and not discounted)[/quote]

Is there a limit as to what the team can pay for? Does this have to come out of the players’ pockets?

Not for a club team.

What if it was not a club team? I was thinking about a regular varsity team. Is there a limit?


#9
[quote="UncleLar, post:2, topic:2730"]One - they aren't an NCAA hockey team so the NCAA rules don't exactly apply.

Two - it’s no different than the team taking in a movie/show the night before a game (they play Illinois tonight and tomorrow). These guys just went to a hockey game instead. So even if the rules did apply, it’s not a problem (as long as what they paid was the going group rate and not discounted)[/quote]

Is there a limit as to what the team can pay for? Does this have to come out of the players’ pockets?

Not for a club team.

What if it was not a club team? I was thinking about a regular varsity team. Is there a limit?

Fair and reasonable is what they usually say.


#10

Taking a team to a Lady Gaga concert would be unfair and unreasonable on many levels.


#11
[quote="UncleLar, post:9, topic:2730"]Fair and reasonable is what they usually say.[/quote]

Taking a team to a Lady Gaga concert would be unfair and unreasonable on many levels.

More like cruel and unusual.


#12

[quote=“UncleLar, post:2, topic:2730”]One - they aren’t an NCAA hockey team so the NCAA rules don’t exactly apply.

Two - it’s no different than the team taking in a movie/show the night before a game (they play Illinois tonight and tomorrow). These guys just went to a hockey game instead. So even if the rules did apply, it’s not a problem (as long as what they paid was the going group rate and not discounted)[/quote]

I read on Kyle’s blog that Eddie Olczyk “arranged” for the team to go to the Blackhawks game. JoeBa mentioned that in a radio interview that Kyle transcribed. Eddie’s son Tommy plays for the Icers. I’m assuming the players still had to buy their own tickets.


#13

This article reads like the Blackhawks treated the team to the game, food, etc.

http://www.collegian.psu.edu/archive/2011/10/19/Icers_Black_Hawks.aspx


#14

This could be argued to be legal even if this was the varsity team, if a player’s dad is considered a “representative of athletics interests through the institution”

16.7.1.1 Professional Sports Tickets. Complimentary tickets to professional sports contests shall not be
provided to student-athletes, unless the tickets are provided by the institution (or by a representative of athletics
interests through the institution) for entertainment purposes to student-athletes involved in an away-from-home
contest. Under the latter circumstances, the institution may pay actual costs for reasonable entertainment that
takes place during a team trip.