Pope Declares for NBA draft


#1

per ESPN

After careful consideration of my options, and considering the needs of my family in Pittsburgh and a desire to compete at the next level I have decided to enter the 2010 NBA draft" Pope wrote in a statement attached to the e-mail. "While I will continue to attend class at Seton Hall allowing me the option of ‘testing the waters,’ I am 110 percent committed at this time to staying in this draft


#2

I find that amazing…the guy has to be in his 70s right? Maybe he’s had enough with all the sexual abuse scandal stuff and decided it’s time for a career change :wink:


#3

King James vs Pope Benedict. Like to see that matchup.


#4

Hes the closest to being NBA ready out of Hazell, Robinson and Pope. Robinson declared earlier this week, Hazell has not. Hes in a really tough financial situation, so I can see where he is coming from… but he goes to school for free. He’ll be a lock for the draft, or at least Europe if he plays one more year. Same with Hazell.

Robinson, on the other hand, has a bit more work to do. Hes probably a D-Leaguer at best. He reminds me a lot of Cornley, with less post moves, and better off the dribble.


#5

[quote=“noobd, post:4, topic:1066”]Hes the closest to being NBA ready out of Hazell, Robinson and Pope. Robinson declared earlier this week, Hazell has not. Hes in a really tough financial situation, so I can see where he is coming from… but he goes to school for free. He’ll be a lock for the draft, or at least Europe if he plays one more year. Same with Hazell.

Robinson, on the other hand, has a bit more work to do. Hes probably a D-Leaguer at best. He reminds me a lot of Cornley, with less post moves, and better off the dribble.[/quote]

I’m not shocked by Pope’s move at all. I don’t think he ever wanted to be in college, and he has a chance of getting drafted due to his size and decent overall skill set. I don’t follow the NBA draft that much, but there was a time when GMs were in love with guys like him.

Jeff could really shoot in high school. I thought he would be a better college player than he has been. I guess riding the bench at Memphis for two seasons didn’t really help him develop.


#6

Agree NICU. The words “Herb Pope” and “college” should never be used in the same sentence. BUT, that is the system…
He will get drafted THIS year OR play in Europe if the deal if better. No reason to wait a year.


#7

Hes a 4 maybe even a 3 playing in a 5 spot. Simply because New Mexico State and SHU didn’t have enough big men. He would dribble up the floor or lead fast breaks quite often (great handle for a 4 or 5). He started nailing 3’s at the end of the season as well.

His only flaws are free throw shooting and defense. Hes quite frankly pretty poor on the defensive end. When he tries to D up, he gets in easy foul trouble. When he doesn’t, offenders score easily.

If he were to get moved to the 4 or 3(very likely) in the NBA, hed be going against much quicker players and would fair even worse. But the NBA doesn’t care about defense, so I guess it wouldn’t matter!

I just thought it would make sense if he could play well against the BE before going to the NBA… guess that isn’t the case.


#8

I hear ya…but…I think he was the league’s leading rebounder. Herb should be a 4 in the NBA. No way a 5.
He may want to be a 3 but he isn’t good enough. He went coast-to-coast alot in HS to the boos of his team’s fans. He also shot 3’s in HS.
If Pope can be taught to “cut the crap” and play D and rebound he can make a NBA team. If not then there is always Europe.
I see your point about another year at SHU maybe helping but I don’t think it’s “worth the risk” for Pope.
For a guy like Pope “worth the risks” means lots of things. He’s made it this far in college and is an “NBA prospect” that is enough for him.


#9

NBADraft.net has him as the 51st overall pick, Oklahoma City. 1 ahead of Harangody, and 2 ahead of Caracter. http://www.nbadraft.net/2010mock_draft

Edit:
http://www.mynbadraft.com/2010-NBA-Mock-Draft - Not in first two rounds
http://www.hoopsworld.com/the_draft/ - Not in first 2 rounds

Both sites have been updated as recently as today. If anyone has ESPN insider, it has the Top 100 prospects, I’d like to see where they have him. Pope could easily raise his stock to late first round if he plays another season in the BE. Its up to him, though.

Forgot to mention this in my last post, Pope also needs to add muscle. Hes not that strong, and I had called him “soft” quite a few times earlier in the season. Not saying he IS soft, but added muscle cannot hurt him.


#10

[quote=“noobd, post:9, topic:1066”]NBADraft.net has him as the 51st overall pick, Oklahoma City. 1 ahead of Harangody, and 2 ahead of Caracter. http://www.nbadraft.net/2010mock_draft

Edit:
http://www.mynbadraft.com/2010-NBA-Mock-Draft - Not in first two rounds
http://www.hoopsworld.com/the_draft/ - Not in first 2 rounds

Both sites have been updated as recently as today. If anyone has ESPN insider, it has the Top 100 prospects, I’d like to see where they have him. Pope could easily raise his stock to late first round if he plays another season in the BE. Its up to him, though.

Forgot to mention this in my last post, Pope also needs to add muscle. Hes not that strong, and I had called him “soft” quite a few times earlier in the season. Not saying he IS soft, but added muscle cannot hurt him.[/quote]

He’s not on the Top 100 list. listed as second round to undrafted


#11

Thats what I thought I saw on Rivals.

FWIW, Hazell has declared for the draft too. Hes in the same boat as Robinson; almost certainly staying. In fact, I think Robinson is staying for sure… I believe he actually posted discretely on Rivals saying he was coming back.


#12
[quote="laoDan, post:10, topic:1066"]He's not on the Top 100 list. listed as second round to undrafted[/quote]

Thats what I thought I saw on Rivals.

FWIW, Hazell has declared for the draft too. Hes in the same boat as Robinson; almost certainly staying. In fact, I think Robinson is staying for sure… I believe he actually posted discretely on Rivals saying he was coming back.

I see Pope in Europe next year. Having a limited skill set (not much on the NBA level beyond rebounding) and character issues is trouble for his draft status


#13

Pope was rushed to the hospital from the SHU weight room around 4:10 today… Its not looking good. http://www.thesetonian.com/news/breaking-news-pope-taken-to-hospital-1.1433398

Everyone keep him in your thoughts and prayers…


#14

[quote=“noobd, post:13, topic:1066”]Pope was rushed to the hospital from the SHU weight room around 4:10 today… Its not looking good. http://www.thesetonian.com/news/breaking-news-pope-taken-to-hospital-1.1433398

Everyone keep him in your thoughts and prayers…[/quote]
What are you guys hearing because vomit and the ambulance isn’t horrible so there must be more to the story. Wish him luck though.


#15

Someone heard from an eye witness he was revived after being unconscious for a few minutes before he was put on the stretcher… However, cardiac arrests have been linked to vomiting before…

I believe its either dehydration or cardiac arrest… Obviously hoping for the first. I don’t believe Pope has a history of heart problems at all.


#16
[quote="jjepsu92, post:14, topic:1066"]What are you guys hearing because vomit and the ambulance isn't horrible so there must be more to the story. Wish him luck though.[/quote] Someone heard from an eye witness he was revived after being unconscious for a few minutes before he was put on the stretcher... However, cardiac arrests have been linked to vomiting before..

I believe its either dehydration or cardiac arrest… Obviously hoping for the first. I don’t believe Pope has a history of heart problems at all.


I was thinking possibly a stroke with the vomiting. Weird that such a young guy would have this happen to him. Like I said I wish him the best.

#17

Nothing is looking good for Herb right now… I can’t help but be pessimistic right now. This kid has gone through so much in his life, it just keeps piling on.

Pull through Herb.


#18

Another link:

http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/04/28/seton-halls-pope-taken-to-hospital/


#19

According to a source very close to the situation (closer than any news outlet), Herb made it through the night. He is in CCU and allowed no visitors. The collapse absolutely had something to do with his heart.

Its looking less and less likely Herb will suit up for the Pirates this season, let alone be even remotely close for the NBA draft. But that is the least of everyone’s worries… this kid is fighting for his life right now. :-[


#20

Thanks noobd…keep us posted.