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OT:Syracuse

Still rumor, but this seems to state where it’s started.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/593711-college-basketball-syracuse-basketball-point-shaving-scandal

Do you play the kids under this cloud? I would love this to happen to Boo Hoo Boeheim.

I went to YNN of Syracuse, and there is no mention of this. The writer says that’s where the story originated.

I can’t believe efforts like bleacherreport.com won’t be sued out of business before it’s all over. There are absolutely no standards.

There are a few pretty good writers on bleacherreport.

But for the most part it’s full of “published” message board-quality posts.

[quote=“tjb, post:3, topic:1890”]I went to YNN of Syracuse, and there is no mention of this. The writer says that’s where the story originated.

I can’t believe efforts like bleacherreport.com won’t be sued out of business before it’s all over. There are absolutely no standards.[/quote]

I didn’t see anything there either. Strange.

[quote=“tjb, post:3, topic:1890”]I went to YNN of Syracuse, and there is no mention of this. The writer says that’s where the story originated.

I can’t believe efforts like bleacherreport.com won’t be sued out of business before it’s all over. There are absolutely no standards.[/quote]

dunno if this means anything or not

http://twitter.com/YNNAndyAdamson

[quote="tjb, post:3, topic:1890"]I went to YNN of Syracuse, and there is no mention of this. The writer says that's where the story originated.

I can’t believe efforts like bleacherreport.com won’t be sued out of business before it’s all over. There are absolutely no standards.[/quote]

dunno if this means anything or not

http://twitter.com/YNNAndyAdamson

I don’t see a mention of it there. And the bleacher report refers to him as YNN’s Andy Anderson, not Andy Adamson, but it looks like you got the right guy. This seems fishy.

I once worked at a paper that lost several hundred thousand dollars, real money in those days, because in a photo caption we said one car hit another, which was undeniably true, but the driver argued the wording implied she was at fault. A jury agreed.

These guys are public figures, which makes for a much higher burden to prove libel, but I can’t imagine there are any professional standards or processes at bleacherreport. I think there are cases where extreme negligence has been judged as malice.

[quote=“tjb, post:8, topic:1890”]I once worked at a paper that lost several hundred thousand dollars, real money in those days, because in a photo caption we said one car hit another, which was undeniably true, but the driver argued the wording implied she was at fault. A jury agreed.

These guys are public figures, which makes for a much higher burden to prove libel, but I can’t imagine there are any professional standards or processes at bleacherreport. I think there are cases where extreme negligence has been judged as malice.[/quote]

I’ve come to accept that more often than you think, where there’s smoke there is probably fire. The fact that this rumor has spread as far and wide as it has with nobody to be found denying it yet… makes me really wonder.

[quote="tjb, post:3, topic:1890"]I went to YNN of Syracuse, and there is no mention of this. The writer says that's where the story originated.

I can’t believe efforts like bleacherreport.com won’t be sued out of business before it’s all over. There are absolutely no standards.[/quote]

dunno if this means anything or not

http://twitter.com/YNNAndyAdamson

I don’t see a mention of it there. And the bleacher report refers to him as YNN’s Andy Anderson, not Andy Adamson, but it looks like you got the right guy. This seems fishy.

Seems like something he posted on Facebook.

A quick glance at Google results an hour or so ago showed that this “story” only existed on blogs (which is anyone who can access any of the many free blogging tools) and Twitter. This happened in the last day or so, and looks like it may have originated from some hack’s Facebook status update (now deleted) about a now-deleted poker site post. And the Twittersphere ran wild. The thing about bleacherreport.com is it looks credible at first glance. It’s just a bunch of sportswriter wannabes, for cripes’ sake. It’s like giving guns to mall security people.

I would not say this is “smoke.”

[quote="Craftsy21, post:9, topic:1890"]I've come to accept that more often than you think, where there's smoke there is probably fire. The fact that this rumor has spread as far and wide as it has with nobody to be found denying it yet... makes me really wonder.[/quote]

A quick glance at Google results an hour or so ago showed that this “story” only existed on blogs (which is anyone who can access any of the many free blogging tools) and Twitter. This happened in the last day or so, and looks like it may have originated from some hack’s Facebook status update (now deleted) about a now-deleted poker site post. And the Twittersphere ran wild. The thing about bleacherreport.com is it looks credible at first glance. It’s just a bunch of sportswriter wannabes, for cripes’ sake. It’s like giving guns to mall security people.

I would not say this is “smoke.”

Stranger things have started in the blog/twittersphere than this and wound up being true. I think it could go either way at this point, but obviously will be waiting for the first credible news source to make mention of it before I truly believe anything.

[quote=“kidcoyote, post:1, topic:1890”]Still rumor, but this seems to state where it’s started.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/593711-college-basketball-syracuse-basketball-point-shaving-scandal[/quote]

Seems the story has been taken down.

[quote="kidcoyote, post:1, topic:1890"]Still rumor, but this seems to state where it's started.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/593711-college-basketball-syracuse-basketball-point-shaving-scandal[/quote]

Seems the story has been taken down.

The whole site ought to be taken down (or at a minimum come with a huge disclaimer). For some reason (I guess because it looks slick), the site is given way too much credibility. As tjb stated, it’s just a bunch of wannabes posting.

Well, if the Cuse story never develops the story about people breaking this fake-story is sure to be newsworthy. :wink:

I resemble that statement, although the onslaught of messages left on my answering machine the last few weeks have curtailed my wannabe-ish postings

Ugh… so true.

I thought this was a pretty good response about the whole thing.

http://www.nunesmagician.com/2011/2/3/1972065/rumor-mongering-the-great-blog-equalizer

I still find it curious that this rumor started in the first place. As the guy mentions, he was hearing it well before it hit the internet in full-force. If you’re the NCAA are you obligated to at least take a look into this?

[quote=“Craftsy21, post:18, topic:1890”]I thought this was a pretty good response about the whole thing.

http://www.nunesmagician.com/2011/2/3/1972065/rumor-mongering-the-great-blog-equalizer

I still find it curious that this rumor started in the first place. As the guy mentions, he was hearing it well before it hit the internet in full-force. If you’re the NCAA are you obligated to at least take a look into this? [/quote]

Emphatically, NO.

[quote="Craftsy21, post:18, topic:1890"]I thought this was a pretty good response about the whole thing.

http://www.nunesmagician.com/2011/2/3/1972065/rumor-mongering-the-great-blog-equalizer

I still find it curious that this rumor started in the first place. As the guy mentions, he was hearing it well before it hit the internet in full-force. If you’re the NCAA are you obligated to at least take a look into this? [/quote]

Emphatically, NO.

Not that I’m disagreeing, but what does it take to get an investigation started? Aren’t most of them based on hearsay at least initially, or does somebody have to have hard evidence to even prompt one?