[quote="pmhewitt, post:5, topic:1088"]It is in trouble in the sense that the general public does not care. I don't care how many good fighters and fights there are. No one outside of the diehards cares.[/quote]
100% correct. I remember watching "friday night fights" on ESPN with my dad. We marveled at this new guy "tyson".
I don’t think I’ve seen a boxing match in 10 years. If I wanted to see a fight on TV right now, where would I go? I don’t get HBO, and don’t buy pay per view. I’m a pretty “average” sports fan (except for PSU hoops, for which there is no explanation ;D ) Tell me when was the last time you:
- Watched a fight on “regular” TV (a channel that “most” people would get)
- Saw fight highlights on Sportcenter
- Knew a fighter by name who was less than 30 yrs old?
- talked about a fight with someone at work
I haven’t done any of these in a LONG time. Boxing is already being taken over by MMA. It’s like boxing, only it’s more violent but has fairer outcomes (two things that give it a leg up on boxing IMO).
I think the whole sport is in BIG trouble…
Personally, I fit all the categories above, but I am a die hard boxing fan. I watch tons of fights on channels that most people get. ESPN, FoxSports, and in CA some of the Mexican channels have boxing. Everybody who gets Spike or whatever channel MMA is shown on also gets those channels. If there is a great knockout on FNF, I guarantee it will be in SportsCenters top 10. I also see highlights of the mega fights on ESPN all the time. I found out Pacman beat Clottey in a boring fight while watching SC at a bar. I won’t even bother with all the good prospects who are out there. Truthfully, I don’t know their ages, but there are a slew of talented young fighters. I talk about boxing with people at work a decent amount, though I talk to my non-die hard fan friends about it more.
The fact there are no really good American heavyweights has really hurt boxing, as has the amount of money fighters want for each fight (that’s why you don’t see boxing on regular TV anymore). I won’t go into the MMA vs. boxing issue on this site, but I don’t think an MMA card has ever sold 45,000 tickets like the recent Pacman fight did. I don’t think MMA fighters make $15-20 million for a fight like many boxers have (this proves the ticket sales, PPV sales, etc are strong for boxing, though I hate how money has hurt the sport). I also don’t know if MMA’s PPV numbers regularly do as well as boxing’s (they might, I really don’t know). I think MMA is a threat to boxing, but certainly don’t think it has already taken over.
I’m one who thinks that that MMA has passed them by.
MarkH hit it on the head when he talked about fighter recognition. Usually, the MMA fighters are a lot more recognizable than the boxers. Sure, the HUGE fights draw a lot, but as far as volume, I’m not sure they have MMA beat. MMA has a card almost every other month. Boxing has a big one every one or two years.
As far as profits, have you ever gone to an MMA card? Sure, it may be in 25K seat arenas, but CHEAPEST tix are usually bringing around $150. There’s lots of money being made, maybe not all by the fighters.
MMA has a lot of advantages, but like was said already, I don’t want to take this thread there.