You must not be reading what I’m writing today. I never said that we should do it now. We should assess after the season.
[quote=“Skeeza, post:736, topic:3848”]2.) The team is still seen as a perennial loser.
- They have not won more than 41 games in a season since 2004
- They have not won 20 games since 201-2013
- They are still 0-3 this season, with the worst +/- in the entire NBA.
Free agents see this franchise as a dead zone in the league, and it will take a LOT to bring a free agent here.[/quote]
Should be noted the strike shortened season team was on pace to win more than 41, but you’re right, the team has been bad for a while. I’m not sure what the overall point is here though. If Simmons and Embiid are good, then that gives a player a chance to play with two young stars. If someone in a non-ideal situation like Jimmy Butler wants to take a chance playing somewhere else, then Philly is not a bad landing spot. And they have plenty of things to trade to make a deal palatable for teams.
Ok? Where does Jahlil Okafor fit into production? He’s been bad so far. Really bad even.
He’s only gone if he’s injured again. He obviously would not be gone if healthy through the season. We can extend his contract or match any offer in 2018. If Embiid stays healthy these next two years, he’s not going anywhere.
The problem with this notion though is you aren’t considering a single thing about Bryan Colangelo. The Sixers could have as much as $50m in cap space next season last I checked (pre-Stauskas option being picked up though, so may be slightly less than that) and can trade their next 4 1st round picks. They have Jahlil Okafor, who could be viewed as a reclamation project somewhere, they have Nerlens Noel, who someone may want for front court defense, and they have Robert Covington, an affordable contract that provides + defense (but streaky shooting).
Sixers have a ton to give up in a trade.
I don’t really care about Okafor vs. Watkins tbh, that has no relevance on Penn State or the Sixers.
Okafor’s potential is pretty much overstated at this point. He was the #3 pick in the draft and was almost traded last year at the deadline had it not been for Jerry Colangelo (and/or the league) intervention.
But there’s plenty of things wrong with an Okafor/Embiid front court. They may be able to make it work in short instances but it is likely (a) not going to be a maximal use of either of them and (b) going to create mismatch issues on the defensive end against a lot of teams. Okafor hasn’t shown a willingness or ability to defend in really any capacity. In the event that Embiid is healthy and can last the season, then I’d trade Okafor to get as much value as I can. There’s no reason to keep him here in that case. (1) Okafor is a center, and (2) Embiid’s defense is minimized guarding 4s.
I still can’t believe you didn’t bring up Ben Simmons, who might be the best prospect the Sixers have (certainly a better one than Okafor).
Simmons/Embiid could be transformational with the right guards around them. I can’t believe you would just not mention this combo at all. It’s a far better fit than Okafor/Embiid and makes sense from a gravity standpoint on the floor too.