[quote=“tjb, post:14, topic:358”]This wing = deficiencies view strikes me as ludicrous, although I agree with kid’s conclusion that Brooks would help the team if he would get in there and fight for some boards.
I just think the rationale is off. Does playing point guard get defined as “can’t play inside”? A wing is someone who can handle the ball, can shoot to some range, can mix it up inside, can create from the perimeter. As Geary’s jumpshot developed, he was probably only two inches shy of being prototypical.
Because college teams (aside from maybe UNC) can’t line up five prototypes, a wing in college is usually interchangeably a big guard or a small forward. That’s why they practice in the same group at Penn State.
Power forwards are also skilled but in different ways. DJ is probably not big enough to be a PF in the Big 10 (even though he is the strongest guy on the team). His skills on the wing are better than we think (the first two and a half months of last season probably have to be expunged from our memories – the DJ that we saw the other night is the one that ED absolutely fell in love with while recruiting). He is a tweener.
Until we start regularly signing the recruits that the top teams also want, Penn State will always be about putting together a group of tweeners in ways that can win. That is one reason why I think we look bad at the beginning of the season. We’re still trying to figure that out. With the right combinations, like last year, we can still end up pretty good.[/quote]
Tim, I guess when a guy is 6’7"-6’8", I don’t like hearing he’s a wing. At that height, he may be a great shooter, so great a shooter, like Carmelo, Kobe, Brandon Roy, that he may be a guard. But a guy that size has to rebound. I think the Celtics comparison is legit. Of Bird and McHale, who was the wing? If Bird never rebounded, but stayed as a perimeter player, he would’ve been a wing, and how could you argue with that, as he was such a great shooter? I don’t believe Brooks and DJ are such great shooters that they can really be considered wings, and that they’re much more effective helping the team on the boards, and in trying to score inside, like DJ did the other night. Does the team need two guys doing that? Maybe not equally. It’s just funny that both these guys were pegged as perimeter players, and I don’t really see it, and never did. Danny Morrissey was a perimeter player. Our guards are so fast, I’d like to see our forwards crash the boards on offense, as we’re less likely to get beat on the break with Talor and Tim.
I also think that if forwards are going to play like perimeter players, are they the best “wings” on this team, or does that go more to Babb, Woodyard, Edwards?