[quote=“tundra, post:3, topic:1199”]Records, NCAAs and NITs mean nothing. The APOLOGISTS would defend Ed with all of their illogical twists, ridiculous math and general foolishness. This APOLOGIST movement is totally unique to my experience of life long sports watching. AND, I am an oldtimer. Some sport fans are LOYALISTS to their team. They defend the team, players and coaches at ALL costs. BUT, I don’t see the APOLOGISTS in this vain. The APOLOGISTS bash the school, the town, the players, and the history of the before mentioned.
No, I see the APOLOGISTS as just as being similar to the Indian tribe “The Contraries” in the movie Little Big Man. In the movie the CONTRARIES did everything in REVERSE, an APOLOGIST does EVERYTHING (see the above non logic, ridiculous math, etc) just to CONTER a posted opinion.
SO…to answer your question…no matter what Ed’s coaching record was: NCAA or NIT or ZERO TOTAL WINS…if any poster made a negative comment about Ed’s coaching he would be CONTERED by the APOLOGISTS.
One more thing...............your classifying posters as "haters" is in very poor taste!! A poster who cites the coach's record and then gives his opinion that the said coach has not been effective and should be removed is NOT HATEING. This is what sport fans do..............all teams..........all sports..............forever. This sport FAN wants a coach who would WIN games with his favorite team. Check EVERY sport message board ( well maybe not the "CONTARY" board .)[/quote]
I’m sorry I’m confused… are you trying to say counter? Or is conter a term that I’d understand if I saw this movie?
For the record - this post isn’t about being an apologist, and for turning it into that kind of debate you’ve clearly indicated why I label people such as yourself “haters”. You take every single post and make it into something it’s not to fit your own agenda on this board, which is nothing more than a pedestal to bash on Ed.
This question is very simple - it’s very straight-forward. I mean nothing more than to find out just how different a simple selection committee decision could have changed the perception of this program. I think NCAA bids are the true measuring stick in most program’s case, so would Ed having one versus his NIT championship change anything in the perception of how he’s done here?