Early looks at 2010-2011 season


#1

I know it’s way to early for this stuff and it’s basically meaningless but at least it’s something to consume:

CHN Top 50

Andy Katz Top 25

A Blogger’s Take on the Big10 Next Season

Some crazy love for Purdue and MSU heading into next year.

According to Katz’ rankings, we could possibly have 2 Top 25 teams on our non-conf schedule (BYU and Ole Miss) with UNLY and Va Tech just on the cusp.


#2

I thnk Katz is nuts on Nova and OSU. Fisher and/or Stokes can’t replace Reynolds(though not sure of this big man), and sans Turner, I don’t see how he picks OSU. Sullinger will be great, but as a frosh? I guess they’ll be bigger, stronger if he plays alongside Lauderdale, but they’re losing top scorer, rebounder and assist man in Turner. I don’t see it. They have to slip some.


#3

Am I having a brainfart and forget about UNLY or is that news…


#4

Should’ve said UNLV…and I’m pretty sure they’re in the 76 Classic


#5

http://collegebasketball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1071694 - Kind of stupid to rank teams before draft statuses are official…


#6

Sure is, since Turner just announced he’s entering the draft. #1 pick, IMO. Don’t think he’s as good as Kevin Durant, but like Durant, best player in draft, and Portland bypassing Durant for Oden was dumb. IMO, gotta take the best player available. Wall is more of a gamble. Athletic, but not a great shooter, and lots of TO’s.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2010/news/story?id=5064218


#7
[quote="noobd, post:5, topic:1099"][url=http://collegebasketball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1071694]http://collegebasketball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1071694[/url] - Kind of stupid to rank teams before draft statuses are official...[/quote]

Sure is, since Turner just announced he’s entering the draft. #1 pick, IMO. Don’t think he’s as good as Kevin Durant, but like Durant, best player in draft, and Portland bypassing Durant for Oden was dumb. IMO, gotta take the best player available. Wall is more of a gamble. Athletic, but not a great shooter, and lots of TO’s.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2010/news/story?id=5064218

IMO, Wall is the first pick. Youth=potential in the draft. Wall is seen to have more upside, after all, we’ve only seen him play as a freshman.


#8
[quote="noobd, post:5, topic:1099"][url=http://collegebasketball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1071694]http://collegebasketball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1071694[/url] - Kind of stupid to rank teams before draft statuses are official...[/quote]

Sure is, since Turner just announced he’s entering the draft. #1 pick, IMO. Don’t think he’s as good as Kevin Durant, but like Durant, best player in draft, and Portland bypassing Durant for Oden was dumb. IMO, gotta take the best player available. Wall is more of a gamble. Athletic, but not a great shooter, and lots of TO’s.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2010/news/story?id=5064218

IMO, Wall is the first pick. Youth=potential in the draft. Wall is seen to have more upside, after all, we’ve only seen him play as a freshman.

I think it will depend on the team that wins the lottery and their drafting philosophy. Minnesota has the second best chance to win the lottery, and with Jonny Flynn and Rubio’s rights I think they go with Turner. New Jersey has Devon Harris, but may go with Wall anyway.


#9
[quote="noobd, post:5, topic:1099"][url=http://collegebasketball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1071694]http://collegebasketball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1071694[/url] - Kind of stupid to rank teams before draft statuses are official...[/quote]

Sure is, since Turner just announced he’s entering the draft. #1 pick, IMO. Don’t think he’s as good as Kevin Durant, but like Durant, best player in draft, and Portland bypassing Durant for Oden was dumb. IMO, gotta take the best player available. Wall is more of a gamble. Athletic, but not a great shooter, and lots of TO’s.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2010/news/story?id=5064218

IMO, Wall is the first pick. Youth=potential in the draft. Wall is seen to have more upside, after all, we’ve only seen him play as a freshman.

I think it will depend on the team that wins the lottery and their drafting philosophy. Minnesota has the second best chance to win the lottery, and with Jonny Flynn and Rubio’s rights I think they go with Turner. New Jersey has Devon Harris, but may go with Wall anyway.

I think any team has to take a look at Wall. He probably has the best chance to put butts in seats and be a strong TV draw. And money is still the name of the game.


#10
[quote="noobd, post:5, topic:1099"][url=http://collegebasketball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1071694]http://collegebasketball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1071694[/url] - Kind of stupid to rank teams before draft statuses are official...[/quote]

Sure is, since Turner just announced he’s entering the draft. #1 pick, IMO. Don’t think he’s as good as Kevin Durant, but like Durant, best player in draft, and Portland bypassing Durant for Oden was dumb. IMO, gotta take the best player available. Wall is more of a gamble. Athletic, but not a great shooter, and lots of TO’s.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2010/news/story?id=5064218

IMO, Wall is the first pick. Youth=potential in the draft. Wall is seen to have more upside, after all, we’ve only seen him play as a freshman.

I think it will depend on the team that wins the lottery and their drafting philosophy. Minnesota has the second best chance to win the lottery, and with Jonny Flynn and Rubio’s rights I think they go with Turner. New Jersey has Devon Harris, but may go with Wall anyway.

I think any team has to take a look at Wall. He probably has the best chance to put butts in seats and be a strong TV draw. And money is still the name of the game.

I agree teams have to take a look, but considering the outcry from T’wolves fans for taking two consecutive point guards last year, I think taking Wall could alienate their fans more than it would sell tickets.


#11
[quote="noobd, post:5, topic:1099"][url=http://collegebasketball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1071694]http://collegebasketball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1071694[/url] - Kind of stupid to rank teams before draft statuses are official...[/quote]

Sure is, since Turner just announced he’s entering the draft. #1 pick, IMO. Don’t think he’s as good as Kevin Durant, but like Durant, best player in draft, and Portland bypassing Durant for Oden was dumb. IMO, gotta take the best player available. Wall is more of a gamble. Athletic, but not a great shooter, and lots of TO’s.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2010/news/story?id=5064218

IMO, Wall is the first pick. Youth=potential in the draft. Wall is seen to have more upside, after all, we’ve only seen him play as a freshman.

I think it will depend on the team that wins the lottery and their drafting philosophy. Minnesota has the second best chance to win the lottery, and with Jonny Flynn and Rubio’s rights I think they go with Turner. New Jersey has Devon Harris, but may go with Wall anyway.

I think any team has to take a look at Wall. He probably has the best chance to put butts in seats and be a strong TV draw. And money is still the name of the game.

I agree teams have to take a look, but considering the outcry from T’wolves fans for taking two consecutive point guards last year, I think taking Wall could alienate their fans more than it would sell tickets.

They could get busy making trades if they win the lottery. They aren’t going to fill seats with Flynn unless they start winning. Wall automatically improves ticket sales.


#12

I think the blogger’s BigTen11 forecast is good. The league is weak at the bottom. Questionable in the middle. I like Illinois at 4. Very strong in the top 3. I think the most room to shuffle is in the questionable middle. PSU will move up from 11th to ______!! Good opportunity for PSU.


#13

Agree. The Top 3 locked the door and threw away the key next season, don’t expect any other teams to sneak into that tier. Illinois, Wisconsin and either Minnesota / Northwestern will be the next tier. The lower end of this tier is a bubble team in a 65 team tournament (Minnesota/NW). The next group of teams is Penn State, Michigan, Iowa and Indiana. I’d rank them in this order: Penn State, Indiana, Michigan, Iowa.

I’m sure many people will be optimistic for PSU to hurdle Indiana, Michigan and Iowa next season, but remember this: PSU will be without Babb, Ott and Edwards next season. They replace these 3 players with Buie and Bowman. Factor in the close games, and PSU is possibly slightly better than last season. Right around 4-5 wins, 6 max.

A lot will hang on Buie, Woodyard and Bowman’s ability to replace Babb.


#14
[quote="tundra, post:12, topic:1099"]I think the blogger's BigTen11 forecast is good. The league is weak at the bottom. Questionable in the middle. I like Illinois at 4. Very stronger in the top 3. I think the most room to shuffle is in the questionable middle. PSU will move up from 11th to ______!! Good opportunity for PSU.[/quote]

Agree. The Top 3 locked the door and threw away the key next season, don’t expect any other teams to sneak into that tier. Illinois, Wisconsin and either Minnesota / Northwestern will be the next tier. The lower end of this tier is a bubble team in a 65 team tournament (Minnesota/NW). The next group of teams is Penn State, Michigan, Iowa and Indiana. I’d rank them in this order: Penn State, Indiana, Michigan, Iowa.

I’m sure many people will be optimistic for PSU to hurdle Indiana, Michigan and Iowa next season, but remember this: PSU will be without Babb, Ott and Edwards next season. They replace these 3 players with Buie and Bowman. Factor in the close games, and PSU is possibly slightly better than last season. Right around 4-5 wins, 6 max.

A lot will hang on Buie, Woodyard and Bowman’s ability to replace Babb.


I agree with this, but we also have two grants left. I am hoping for two PF’s or a PF and a C, preferably JUCO’s who have college ready bodies. I know this is asking a lot, but a guy can dream can’t he.

#15

4s and 5s with college ready bodies we have. we need 4s and 5s with college ready game.


#16
[quote="jjepsu92, post:14, topic:1099"]I agree with this, but we also have two grants left. I am hoping for two PF's or a PF and a C, preferably JUCO's who have college ready bodies. I know this is asking a lot, but a guy can dream can't he.[/quote]

4s and 5s with college ready bodies we have. we need 4s and 5s with college ready game.


Point taken. I was just assuming the game was there. I was just hoping that a Junior JUCO would be more physically ready for Big Ten play than a High School Senior soon to be College Freshman.

#17

This is a “real time” prediction. Although I’m not sure how much any forwards would change things unless they are really good.

If the forwards are low quality, they won’t play and make little to no impact. If they are good, they will split time with the forwards PSU already has at most and make a little impact (little impact = +1 or 2 wins). The forwards being “good” is a lot less likely at this juncture, however.

The impact that forwards would LIKELY make is down the road since the “Forward Farm” is going to be depleted after this season.


#18

[quote=“noobd, post:17, topic:1099”]This is a “real time” prediction. Although I’m not sure how much any forwards would change things unless they are really good.

If the forwards are low quality, they won’t play and make little to no impact. If they are good, they will split time with the forwards PSU already has at most and make a little impact (little impact = +1 or 2 wins). The forwards being “good” is a lot less likely at this juncture, however.

The impact that forwards would LIKELY make is down the road since the “Forward Farm” is going to be depleted after this season.[/quote]

True, so I’d love to see one JUCO and one freshman PF / C with the last two scolarships. The JUCO will help replace the lost OTT minutes just in case Sasa and Oliver aren’t ready yet. Or would also provide injury insurance. Plus could offer some leadership the following year as a senior.


#19

That would be optimal, but I’ll take any bodies at this point. I doubt Alexis could step in and play 30 MPG as a freshman, so another 5 is definitely needed.

Here is PSU’s forward depth this instant for 2011-12:
5- Alexis (freshman)
4- Sasa / Oliver*
3- Marshall

PSU is one deep at every spot since we still don’t know the Oliver situation. The 2011 season is still 2 away, so no need to panic yet. However, ED should definitely have the 5 and 4 position as his #1 priority. Buie, Burke and Frazier is not a bad trio at guard. Marshall is a decent (haven’t seen him play yet…) bridge to the 5-4 spots.


#20

Terrico White put his name in the draft, but did not hire an agent. If he leaves, that will be a huge blow to Ole Piss, a PSU opponent next season.