[quote="chicago lion, post:1, topic:313"]I realize that we were shooting very poorly from the field the last to games and the coaches don't shoot the ball, but should we not have adapted to an obvious off night? So far I dont feel like we have been well coached this year. I have many friends who say that PSU hoops has no identity. We want to run, but we really don't run. So what happens, according to them, is that we do neither well. We dont run, but we dont have a half court offense of any significance.
Coaching grade after four games: C-[/quote]
This is pretty terrible, as bad as you could have had things go at this tournament. I don’t know if the coaches can be graded yet. But if you had to give them a grade, it would be F. Penn State has crapped out for 3 straight years in these tournaments. Last year, it basically blew the whole season (an NIT win is nice, but uninteresting), so this really is frustrating to even think about.
Really? So winning the Charleston Classic is more “important” than winning the NIT? Asinine. >:(
By the way, the team didn’t “crap out” last year at the Old Spice Tournament. That was two seasons ago. Last season, the team lost in the semifinals of the Philly Hoop Group Classic to Rhode Island (a disappointing loss, but not a “crap out”).
FYI, that “uninteresting” win of the NIT is why the interest is spiked this season and probably a good reason why so many are disappointed right about now. Hopes were way to high to start the season and now people are dejected and trying to toss about ridiculous statements like
(an NIT win is nice, but uninteresting).
Where did I say that winning the Charleston Classic is more important than the NIT? That is totally misquoting me, or at least misunderstanding me.
Last year - I think they missed the NCAA largely because they failed to win the first game in their Nov. tournament and didn’t get to face Villanova. We were knocked for a bad OOC schedule, and a lot of that was because of the tournament performance. The year before, 3 straight losses in Orlando set the tone for a bad season. When I say the NIT is uninteresting, I mean in terms of getting the program to where we’d all like to see it go. They need to get into the NCAA tournament. Otherwise, the program is still a relative nobody on the national stage. I fear that if DeChellis takes a large step back this year, he may never get the program to where we would all like to see it go. I just don’t know what will be there to convince better recruits to come unless the program makes the tournament soon. These last 2 losses will be “bad losses” at the end of the season. Assuming this team is anywhere near a record worthy of NCAA consideration, they may kill the chances yet again. Consecutive NIT appearances is a very weak standard for success. A first or second round NCAA loss would have been better for this program’s perception than an NIT victory. It doesn’t matter if that’s fair, it’s reality
PSU missed the NCAA Tournament just because they failed to play Villanova? That is like blaming the team for losing against Tulane because Cammeron Woodyard missed one 3 pointer. Just like that was just one shot in an entire game worth of shots, last year’s loss to Rhode Island was just one loss in one game in a season’s worth of games. Why not use the loss to Purdue in the Big Ten Tournament as a reason why they missed the NCAA Tournament? Or the loss at Iowa in the last game of the regular season? It is more probable that the Lions missed the NCAA Tournament because they scheduled so many poor teams in their OOC, not because of some perceived misstep that kept them from facing Villanova. The Lions “tournament performance” last year left them 3-1, albeit with wins against teams like NJIT and Towson. Games against New Hampshire, Lafayette, Sacred Heart and Army are what kept the Lions RPI so low, and made their OOC schedule seem like a pathetic joke.
Furthermore, the previous season, was not a “bad season”. The Lions finished the regular season 15-15 with wins against Virginia Tech, Michigan State and Indiana, both of whcih were ranked. If not for a last second shot by Illinois, Penn State finishes .500 for the second season in 3 years under Ed. That season was a preview of what was to come last year, 27 wins and an NIT title. While winning an NIT title may not matter to you, it sets a standard of success in basketball that has been rarely seen in the history of Penn State basketball, and success that has not occurred at Penn State in nearly the last 10 years. Before this team can overcome being a “nobody” on the national stage, they have to overcome being a “nobody” to Penn State fans. Last season’s NIT victory has been instrumental in propelling interest in Lions basketball this season.
While going to the NIT back-to-back would be considered “weak success” for someone like you, it would take the Lions back to the years of success not seen since the mid-90s. It is asinine to expect that Penn State basketball would suddenly burst onto a national stage after having suffered losing season after losing season for so many years. It may not equate with “success” for you, but for many people who visit here, I believe it would equate with success for them.
It is a shame that you can’t overcome your overzealous expectations to applaud last seasons team for winning the NIT and recognize the success that has happened here the last 3 years. :-[