[quote="Craftsy21, post:6, topic:1604"]If you're willing to assume we can get 8 or 9 wins in conference, it's not a huge stretch to say we could somehow squeeze out 10 or maybe 11. Don't really want to get into the specifics of who we'd beat to do so and all that, I'm just saying... yes, this game is a must-win kind of... but there's a lot of big games left on the schedule.
If we deserve to dance this year, we will have earned it one way or another.[/quote]
Did you pay attention to anything that happened in 2008-09?
Three meaningful games on the non-con schedule. This team has lost two of them. And you’re saying this only a "must-win, kind of."
Let’s make the Bob Beamon leap that what you say is true and this team is capable of winning 9 or 10 league games. Now, what do you think is likely to happen again with zero quality non-con wins?
Think you missed my point… in fact, I know you did.
As I said, if we were to lose to VaTech and be in the 8-9 win range during conference play, we are probably in a bad situation without a good OOC win. But my point was that we have so many good teams in the big10, we would have a good handful of marquee wins in there one way or another should we win any extra game to get us to say 10 wins in the league. We would probably have to win at least 4 games against teams that are much better looking on our resume than VaTech, including some road games at some point.
The league wasn’t nearly as good as it looks like it could be this year - so if we’re all going to make this assumption that we can win 9 games in the league, if we need 9+ @VaTech to dance, we might be just as well off with 10 conference wins minus VaTech. Not suggesting anything revolutionary here - just basic addition really… say, maybe we pick off OSU at home at the end of the season to give us our 10th league victory, I think that could be just as strong as beating VaTech on the road this week for our resume. I might even trade that if I somehow had the choice - a late season victory against a potential big10 champ contender for our 10th big ten win vs an OOC road game against a who knows Vatech squad in December?
Again - we’re speaking entirely in the “what if” on all of these things, and I really hope they take care of VaTech somehow… but winning or losing to them isn’t going to make or break us on the dance this year given what we will have to run through in the big10 this season. I’m much more concerned about where we will find 9 league wins this year than if we can win at VaTech.
edit: still not reading as clearly as it should - but basically the point is that there are about 7-8 road games on our Big10 schedule this year that are the same caliber of opponents at VaTech where we can get one back should we lose Sunday. You’re all too caught up on what our OOC looks like when we have some monsters on our big10 schedule that will give us some nice looking wins should we actually reach the 9 or 10 win mark in the conference. there’s not much chance a 10 win team in the big 10 could be left out of the dance this year with 68 teams getting in and some weak major conferences around the country.
We would not have a bad loss on the schedule unless we lost to Iowa, Mt. St. Marys, or Maine… and we’d have at least 5-6 very strong wins, plus a 10 win mark in the best conference in the country. That dances, period. Taking care of the conference is much more important than taking care of VaTech.